Sniper rifles gone

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: Sniper rifles gone

Please bring the sniper rifles back. super Please. People who can't dodge them don't know how to cover, zig zag or snipe back. Why pull them after all this time? Crying or Very sad

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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject:

Cause they stink.
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: Thanks

Thanks for getting rid of the sniper rifles.Now maybe we can move around without worrying about some camper.Specially the ones that snipe the spawn. Very Happy

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:37 am Post subject:

Yesterday was totally refreshing.Being able to spawn without some camper sniping the spawn brought cod gaming back to what its about,and thats having fun (no not dutch having fun).When I first started playing with uza there was none of this camping and sniping,it was all run gun explosions and fighting.There are not that many maps we can get to do that on these days eagles airfield,st lo and canal come to mind,but they even insisted on sniping on those too I personally was getting fed up of leaving our own server when all the campers turned up,so lets leave it and see what happens,reading the chat logs everyone bar the camping gits think its great,and this should be done on all servers imo. In fact we should have tried this a long time ago before we lost all the good players who left due to this,the rifles are still in and a lot of the good players can snipe using an iron scope and while moving around now thats skill.I just took a look at the stat page and was amazed to see that the 2nd most preferd weapon out of all is the scope.That just shows how bad it has been getting.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:58 am Post subject:

good i was going to start playing uo instead.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:01 am Post subject:

I pulled the sniper rifles for a while as there were increasing complaints and indications that many of our regulars were growing tired of every map having 2-3 people camped in some hidey-hole sniping the spawn points with a scope.

We tend to run smaller run & gun maps for the most part and that is the style of play that is most popular with both our members and regular players. Sniping can be fun too, but on these smaller maps with only 2 or 3 spawn points per side, it is too easy to just camp the spawns with the scope and that frustrates folks.

I know that there are ways to combat the sniper in a window, and in fact it can be fun to sneak around behind and bash 'em. As I said though, on our smaller maps, too often you get a bullet in the eye the second you spawn, and after that happens about 10 times in a row on a map many folks just leave.

This has probably been a year coming. I am NOT one of those who think that window camping, laying down, bunny hopping, sniping or any of the other strategies that frustrate some folks are bad things. Many of these are not my style of play, but they are legitimate ways of playing the game and I have never criticized anyone for playing that way. I only decided to give this a try when it became clear that our preference for smaller "street fight" style maps, combined with a few folks who get a scope and find a rat hole on every map was driving folks away.

We are going to try it without the scope for a while and see how it goes. There may be a few folks who like the scope and find another server to play on. Fair enough. I have watched this issue for quite a long time, and believe that many, many folks have either stopped playing as much or left altogether due to frustrations with campers with scopes.

Eagle
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:18 am Post subject:

Good decision, Eagle! Many of the regulars are indeed fed up with spawn killing snipers. Let's see how this works out.
I saw last night that Server 1 attracted more people than over the past weeks. Very Happy

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:49 am Post subject:

Eagel i know you pain with this issue. For the last two years that cod2 has been around I only allow one sniper per team, same with the shotty. Some of the newer players that like the scope whine and complain, but they are not the majority. In my opinion a balance has to be in place, its all about being fair, or at least the perseption of fairness. Thats what keeps players coming back. FUN AND FAIR. Let the newbs play on newb servers. Very Happy

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:

Well i would just like to say thanks, I might stop by alot more now.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject:

no scope no D...taking my scope is like me taking gomers 44 its part of the game we should leave it...or take the scope and let the snipers pick what mg should be taking away...
my 2 cents
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

As I indicated in the sticky thread, I disagree with pulling the sniper rifle. Snipers are part of the game IMO, however annoying they may be. And also, the servers have been completely dead every night for the last few nights. Are people going elsewhere because the sniper rifle is pulled? None of the regulars have even been on lately. What's the deal? There aren't any better servers out there. Is this the end of COD2?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:24 am Post subject:

I just took a look through the logs back as far as 3 weeks and the traffic seems to be no different cod is getting old now summer holidays start soon and i think it will pick up a bit.As for the scopes i think it is a good idea to remove them still.If we lose a few of the campers so be it.We can watch the traffic and maybe sneak them back in,in a couple of weeks time.And if the problems start up again then take them back out.But my question is,if you feel the need to snipe and scope why not do it on a server set up to do that.Or is racking up a good score sniping people spawning more important ? Which it seems to be for the few.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:58 am Post subject:

i really like it without the (spawn-)snipers !
to camp out with a scope is way too easy ,
it was getting frustrating to spawn with a bullit in you're head a few times in a row
scoping the spawn has nothing to do with skill !
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