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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject:

Philippians 2:9-11
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Serve the Lord, Jesus Christ with all your heart, soul and mind.

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Contemplation of ones existence, and purpose of existence thereof generated this question originally. Probably driving the initial thought thinker (s) insane with possibilities.

By definition Faith, and Reality are two distinct things. Separated, in this particular instance from one another only by belief in one doctrine or another. A personal choice, governed by free will.

The argument, discussion if you will, of creationism vs. evolutionism
should always be muted by the unanswerable questions (in no particular order) of

A: where did god come from?, and so one and so forth..
B: where did big bang material come from? and so on and so forth?

It is merely a matter of belief, in which no one should be labeled right, as no one should be labled wrong. This question will never be answered on the basis of religion versus science. Once again the question has always been "where did we come from, why are we here".

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject:

Can we truly understand God?

It may be possible that we can not truly understand God. According to the Bible God is four dimensional. We are three dimensional. We sense two dimensions and perceive the third. It is not possible to comprehend a fourth so let’s look the other way. If I were to let two dimensional beings see me for example. I could put my arm thru their plane. They would say I am a circle. If I pulled my arm back and left my fingers and thumb thru their plane. They would now argue that I am not a circle, but am actually five circles in one being. They are not even close to understanding what I am. We can discuss what God is, but we only have a limited understanding. Are all denominations or religions wrong? Maybe or maybe not! Yes I was one circle and yes I was five circles in one being. Why argue that I am only one or five? Some times the different religions are because of our limited understanding. I believe that Jesus Christ is the saviour and the only way to heaven. I don’t think I need to push this on anyone. If you truly seek God, then God will not hide. God will lead you to the truth if you pursue it. I’m always willing to share what I believe or point in what I believe to be the correct direction, but only you can seek God for your own sake. One could point to the same thing with evolutionists, which evolutionary theory is correct? Only the one most widely excepted. Or only the one that someday science will have narrowed down? Come on, every door science opens leads to several more! This universe is amazing and we can come up with theories for a long time to come.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject:

So what does God say about evolutionists/atheists?

“The fool hath said in his heart there is no God.”
-This implies to know there is a God must be somewhat obvious.

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, where is the promise of his coming?”……For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished”
-The last days will have scoffers of God and his creation? Yes we definitely have those. I stated in earlier post some of the reasons why evolution is so widely accepted, but yet some people who have only been taught evolution still believe there must or may be a God. I guess if creationism had the millions of dollars for study that evolution has, it might have a little more prestige. Note walking after there own lusts. Maybe evolutionists scoff God because they do fear a judgment. Note the willingly are ignorant of…. Maybe there is a relief of fear from thinking there is no God, so they do not want to hear another view. By God the heavens were of old! What, not by time? The earth standing in the water and out of the water, you should hear the creationist theory of what this means. It’s very interesting! And oh yes the flood, evolutionist are willingly ignorant of any possibility that this happened? Again why think that there is a God that does judge? There is a false peace in the belief of no God for those that fear him. Yes mountains could have formed from moving plates, but maybe there are other ways too. Can’t prove or disprove either way. Oops! I forgot some are willingly not wanting to hear another view.

Science is observable and repeatable. We can observe and repeat things that could prove to have happened in the past. Yet we can’t observe the past. What if other theories exist that can be tested that may have happened too. Yet we can’t go back and see which one was correct. Yes we can look at evidence of the past, but what if there is more than one way to interpret the evidence. We cannot prove either one. Should we just go with the one that the majority believes? Should we only believe the one that is taught to most people? This is part of the reason I say it takes faith to believe in God or evolution. There is a point where science becomes faith when discussing origins.

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I myself accepted Christ as my Saviour at about the age of five. I went to a church for the first few years of my life. One day I was thinking about what I was learning at church and told my Mom I needed to be saved. I then told her I know what to do. I knelt down with my Mom on the living room floor and asked Jesus to forgive me for my sins and be my Saviour. My family quit going to church shortly after that.

Then in my early teenage years I began going to several different kinds of churches with friends and their families. This continued for several years. I would like to add these were also some of my worst years as far as sinning was concerned. I really only went to church to be with my friends. I won’t mention names, but they were just as evil as me.

In high school I began studying evolution with a little more deeper impact. I was becoming confused. I never discussed this with anyone, but God. I started praying for the first time in years. Not including the occasional grace over holiday meals or when someone picked me to pray at church. I prayed that God would help me to understand. I would tell God that evolution made sense and that I really was beginning to understand it and felt my prayers were just sounds for my walls to echo. Yet deep inside I still believed there was a God and maybe God was hearing me. One day out of the blue, someone gave me a book on creationism. He stated I might find it interesting since I seemed to enjoy animals and nature so much. If not, I could just give it back. Well it was very interesting to learn that creation was still possible. This began a turning point in my faith. One day in my bedroom I knelt down and again asked Jesus Christ to be my Saviour. I knew I asked once, but I thought maybe I should make sure. What if I didn’t really mean it when I was younger?

I then began daily reading of my Moms bible; it was the one on the shelf collecting dust. I also began to actually pay attention at the several different churches I attended with friends. Everything is fine and dandy now right? Nooooooo! Now I was beginning to find myself in even more turmoil. Some churches taught you could loose your salvation. Some taught that I should use bible X or Y or Z only. There was also this sin thing that was really getting heavy. I was now getting confused again. I started praying that God would show me what church that he wanted me to attend. What Bible version did God want me to read. Am I still saved today, cause I still have this big sin problem. Then one day I decided to go to a Baptist church that was real close to my house. I attended this church very sporadically. Then God began to answer my prayers and delt with my heart. I finally was convicted by God to go to this Baptist church, read the KJV of the Bible, and yes I was saved the first time I asked. After God had revealed this to me, I have never given any of those question another consideration. Do I believe that everyone should read KJV of Bible, go to a Baptist church, and this is the only true religion? Well, who cares what I think? Everyone needs to go to God and get his leading and not mine. Yet I will share what I believe is the right path, but you need to decide. It’s really between you and God. My faith is in:

“For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” “As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one”
-Sure sounds like me!

“For the wages of sin is death” “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death”
-I agree, I deserve to die physically and to go to hell. I don’t think anyone else deserves it. I can see why God loves others, but why me?

“but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ out Lord” “For he (God the father) hath made him (Jesus Christ) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him”
-A gift, wow gifts are free! And I do have a sin problem; I sure could use some of Gods righteousness!

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved”
-Yes, God I confess that I am a sinner. I deserve death and hell. I believe Jesus Christ died for my sins. Please save me. I except Jesus Christ as my Saviour.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. If you don’t agree, that’s fine. It’s really between you and God, and not you and me. That is to say if there is a God?????

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the Religion goes back to faith, Science goes back to the books.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject:

No one answered my Questions on how Noah got all the animals on land that at the time they never knew existed?
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