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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:
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I'll admit that it is very disturbing on several different levels, but can anyone with any knowledge of terrorist tactics honestly claim to be suprised or shocked???
The part that suprises me is that anyone can honestly claim to be against this war... I'm ashamed to say that I am married to 1, and have another living here who both hate the war and Persident Bush with a passion... And yet they were both shocked by this attack on the 2 markets, in total disbelief that the terrorists would use mentally handicapped women as suicide bombers... HELLO, McFLY... ANYBODY HOME???
Here is the thing to remember about terrorists: They have a goal, and nothing is going to stop them from reaching it, short of death... When is our country going to stop trying to fight this war as if we were up against a civilized military??? We're not!!! We are fighting a battle against a gang of thugs that make the Bloods and the Crypts look like a ballet company...
Until we start fighting their war, their way, attacks like this will continue, and become worse... They will use whatever means they can possibly devise to win the battles that they feel need won... We need to do the same...
I'm not suggesting we round up a bunch of mentally handicapped people and use them for suicide bombings, but maybe it's time the government shut out the media, send all the bleeding heart liberals home, suspend civil rights in that country, and continue interrogating terror suspects the old fashioned way...
Or just do what I suggested back when this war first started: Get Krylon to supply Kuwait with 100,000 cases of yellow striping paint, pull all of our troops out of the middle east and put them on our southern border with orders of "weapons free", and send enough nukes over to Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan to turn them all into 1 great big parking lot...
Sorry to rant here, but it always irks me when people get suprised by attacks like these...
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject:
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One thing is for sure, negotiating with "these people" is a recipe for disaster. You cannot reason with evil, you must defeat it. You are absolutely correct HTR, we need to take the gloves off and fight to win this thing.
I am sick of hearing those who say that the Muslims wouldn't be angry with us if we were not in their country. Well, we weren't in Iraq prior to 9/11 and the Muslim terrorists who took down the Twin Towers seemed pretty angry to me. Would some hugs and a chat make that all better?!
It fascinates me how many people seem to ignore the threats, both verbal and physical, that have been made against us. I have seen the speeches where Muslim extremists have said they wish to DESTROY America and western culture in general. Why do people overlook that? Bush started out with the right idea, "If you are not with us, you are against us!" The problem is he had our troops pull up short of the goal of totally annihilating our enemies and their ability to wage war against us.
It is not as complicated as those on the left, and they know who they are, want to make it sound. If you threaten us we will take it seriously. If you act to carry out those threats we will rain the fires of hell upon your heads. We won't start the fight, we won't make any threats to destroy your culture or way of life, you can live as you please as long as you cause no harm to others. But do not tell us that you plan to destroy the U.S. and then act surprised when we bring the fight to you. People had better wake up damn soon and realize that this is a global war and one that can determine the kind of world our children and grandchildren will live in. Free or not free, that is your choice.
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject:
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| {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: |
I am sick of hearing those who say that the Muslims wouldn't be angry with us if we were not in their country. Well, we weren't in Iraq prior to 9/11 and the Muslim terrorists who took down the Twin Towers seemed pretty angry to me. Would some hugs and a chat make that all better?!
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It isnt Iraq it self. It was all of the Middle east they wanted the western powers out of, the Holy Land.
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject:
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Just wait until Al Qaeda attacks Israel. Israel is crazy. One attack and the whole damn arsenal will be launched in retalliation. What was once the holiest of places, Jerusalem and the rest of the Middle East has been a war zone for hundreds of years. Ironic isn't it?
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject:
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| Capt.Spamada wrote: | | {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: |
I am sick of hearing those who say that the Muslims wouldn't be angry with us if we were not in their country. Well, we weren't in Iraq prior to 9/11 and the Muslim terrorists who took down the Twin Towers seemed pretty angry to me. Would some hugs and a chat make that all better?!
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I see, they just want our money and the machinery to drill for oil, otherwise we are not wanted.  
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject:
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080202.REXXON02/TPStory/Business
Ironic. Especially since our economy is in the sh!t$. My 401K gets depleted, and some group of 'above the law' players line their pockets. I wonder if they still get together for their annual skull and bones meetings to discuss how they will use the money and power of oil for a NWO. lol... oh well. Fits! Too bad Ron Paul isn't getting all your votes.
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject:
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You ever notice how Ron Paul is the only candidate who speaks extensively about the Constitution and reigning in big government?
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject:
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| Killer86 wrote: | | Just wait until Al Qaeda attacks Israel. Israel is crazy. One attack and the whole damn arsenal will be launched in retalliation. What was once the holiest of places, Jerusalem and the rest of the Middle East has been a war zone for hundreds of years. Ironic isn't it? |
Ironic indeed, Killer.
Back on topic: I'm not suprised at all, because, as mentioned, nothing will stop these terrorists from reaching their goal except death.
Civl military against non-civil people=FAIL
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject:
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| DOSiR wrote: | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080202.REXXON02/TPStory/Business
Ironic. Especially since our economy is in the sh!t$. My 401K gets depleted, and some group of 'above the law' players line their pockets. I wonder if they still get together for their annual skull and bones meetings to discuss how they will use the money and power of oil for a NWO. lol... oh well. Fits! Too bad Ron Paul isn't getting all your votes. |
Last I saw the Goverment is 9 trillion in debt...
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject:
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| Capt.Spamada wrote: | | Last I saw the Goverment is 9 trillion in debt... |
Its just a number right? As long as the federal reserve is around lending us money from their own 'absent from the government' entity, who really cares. We run out.... lets just make a call and have some more made up with interest. The American people would be happy to pay for it over the next trillion years. The federal reserve is right up there above the government just like the big wig players lining their pockets. The government is just the people right? Mindless wandering sheep.. expelling little shards of money on coffee and other delectables on a daily basis.
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:44 am Post subject:
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The U.S. needs to abandon the Federal Reserve and get back to the gold standard.
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:
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| Capt.Spamada wrote: | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080130/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc
*sigh* Was no Need for all those people to die. |
You're right CS, it is sad when so many die. Let's ask those who survived Saddam's torture rooms how they feel. Oh, what's that, we can't find very many who survived? Ok, then, let's ask the Kurds who survived Saddam's chemical weapons attacks what they think and....what's that, not many survived those either? Damn, so many who didn't have to die. What are we to make of this?
I wonder if it was ok for Clinton to send our troops to Bosnia-Herzegovina to stop the ethnic cleansing there? I believe Canada helped with that one, too, didn't they? By the way, I'm not picking on you CS, just taking advantage of this opportunity to expound on your statement, which is believed by many others who don't see the big picture.
The standard accusation about why we should not have gone to Iraq is that there were no WMD's. Fine, let's take that at face value, for the sake of this discussion, we would then have to focus on the fact that we dethroned a tyrannical, and down-right sick, dictator. That Saddam was torturing and murdering his own people is not disputed. The fact that makes me crazy is that the very same people who HATE BUSH because he took us to war are the same people who cried tears of joy when Clinton sent our troops to Bosnia to stop the ethnic cleansing there. How was that any of the U.S.'s or Canada's business?
The answer given by the "left" was that it is our responsibility to help those who cannot help themselves (sad that this same logic doesn't apply to unborn children). We are told that we could not simply "stand idly by" and allow the ethnic cleaning to continue. Ok, then why is our presence in Iraq so bad? Simple, it was a Republican who sent our troops in this time. The duplicity of those on the left is astounding.
Back to the Iraqi people - I would ask them this, "Would you rather die on your feet, fighting to be free or die on your knees as a slave?" Freedom isn't free, my friend, it requires vigilance and sometimes it requires that one fight, and maybe even die to make it come to pass.
Phew! Thanks, now I feel better. Just had to get that off my chest.  
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject:
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Great point! The media is full on Democrat propaganda. I still have to argue with people to this day that YES, Clinton did in fact go to war, and people were spread thin in many other countries as well... including Afghanistan. But but but... he is a democrat.. democrats don't go to war, they they talk the flying bullet out of hitting them square in the forehead.
I personally preferred the method of just illegally sending in a sniper to pop Sadaams head like a melon... and a few others. And thats on the side of actually going after terrorists. It's like picking up after my dog.. if you want to remove the $h!t, it first must be disturbed for all to smell.
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