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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: To drill or Not to drill for oil? Reply with quote

If u have the time check out this site...

www.americansolutions.com

I know drilling for oil is a touchy subject BUT we need to explore for more domestically viable oil deposits. If you are so inclined please read the petition and maybe sign it, I did. It's time to say NO to OPEC! Evil or Very Mad

Thank you for your attention...
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Environmentalist nut jobs that complain about drilling need to be stepped on. There are those who say that if we drill in ANWAR we could disrupt the migration patterns of the caribou. I say if we have to drill through a caribou's skull then go for it. Caribou are smarter than the environmentalists; they'll just pick a new route and do just fine.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they should genetically alter humans so we are born with wings. Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im really likeing morgs solution lol
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a penny saved is a penny earned, if we tapped our oil reserves now, then
when that runs out we would truly be at the mercy of those that supplied it.

As opposed to having a rainy day source for extreme times which of course is inevitable before more viable (read profitable) sources/resources of energy and transition to thereof become more evident.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I signed it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOO... we have as much or more oil/gas deposits in the gulf as in the middle east! Then there's the oil shale deposits in the badlands=est. 200 billion barrels, Anwar, and so on!

For those who are not aware, the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWAR) in Alaska is said to hold the largest undiscovered oil reserve in North America, and maybe even the world. We have known about the oil in ANWAR for a long time, but thanks to campaigning from environmentalists, the land has been untouched. It is estimated that the potential for recoverable oil in ANWAR would range in the multiple billions of barrels, along with trillions of cubic feet of natural gas, according to Forbes. Shocked

Will we run out yes, hopefully by then we will have good alternative sources... and ethanol is NOT the answer! Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Ethanol exhaust exits the tailpipe is it fully digested? I'm just saying...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Fcb-

I know u can't get E85 here at all, only one filling station and it's govt! Shocked WTF? Why have it or make it if no one can use it! Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a perfect world, the only thing that is supposed to exit the tailpipe is pure drinkable h2o. But since things wear, fatigue etc... we get burnt oil and deposits.

Folks in Japan change engines in their cars at 30k miles or less because of emissions.

Car companies like GMC and Ford would go under if they had to create and produce a very different kind of technology. Business would have to change everything, because oil is used for so many things.... including the carpet you walk on.

Oil is our second largest commodity next to water, and coffee third.

I recently switched jobs, and now all I have to do is walk 2 blocks away to go to work.

Nobody else, no government, no large invisible entity is going to slow down production, seize drilling, or tear our dependence away from it... well... because its our dependence.. nobody else.

I could do without it... but I still want to be able to get it for my old Dodge Dart I am restoring so I can go drive it a few times a year.

Ride a bike, rollerblade, take an electric train if you can, at least hop on a bus... walk... omg... walk.

I just looked here yesterday at the inflated gas prices... $4.29 a gallon for super. No thanks! Diesel used to be cheaper... kind of like fish used to be back in the day. Now its almost $5 a gallon.

What do you think is paying back the Fed ever so slowly and indefinitely?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With gas around here hanging around $4.00 a gallon, I was filling my tank every week at $60 a shot... All I do for the most part is drive to and from work, 5-7 days a week, at about 15 miles a round trip... 2 weeks ago, I bought a 2007 Honda Rebel 250 (last one the dealer had left from last year, still brand new)... It's a very small motorcycle, handles the highway part of my trip well and has a 2.5 gallon gas tank... Over 100 miles later, and I still have yet to flip to the reserve... Granted, I still drive the truck when the weather is bad or is supposed to get be bad, but in 2 weks, I have yet to need to buy gas...

Once the tank gets low enough to fill, I'll post my MPG in here, and maybe a pic or 2 of it...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To drill or not to drill is not the question nor does this have to do with the "environmental nutjobs" are spewing. Can anyone name a source or transportation that has lasted as long and is in the exact same for as the internal combustion engine? I dont think so. We use oil and it is forced down our throats for one reason, because people make money, lots of money. If we had a course of energy where you couldnt make money what is the incentive? Cant make money there is not use for it. So oil makes lots of people rich. What about Bio fuels? Again same thing. As long as there is a single resource that can be altered and controlled there will be this issue. Why do you think so many are fighting so hard against hydrogen fuels? Walk out to any of the great lakes or the oceans and think how you can control that. You nor anyone else can. If you have a drought there is always the ocean. Monsoons, still have water. Locusts, fungus red tide fire you name it the ocean will always be there. Heavy water is the easiest to create and also the easiest to turn into hydrogen. Its byproduct is also the source that it needs to crate its own energy, water. I know some of you think that if hydrogen escapes it creates more issues. No more than an oil facility pulling crude out of the earth. People are mis informormed about the positive aspects of hydrogen because of the golden rule. He with the most gold makes the rule and influences others.
One final thing. Lets say the environmental nut jobs are wrong and global warming is completely natural. If we over the next 10 years moved over to hydrogen electric cars what is the worst that would happen? What we have cleaner air and we no longer rely on mideast oil? Oh damn Id hate to see that happen.
Get away from Fox news and walk around outside and get the real information on your own. Instead of listening to someone elses opinion make your own.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recon, you always sound like you are arguing with someone who had posted a comment before you. I think everyone here who posted are capable of having their own opinions... and frankly, a lot posted weren't any opinions at all.

One fact is... tailpipe emissions only account for 2% of all greenhouse gases.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Water Fuel... Problem Solved! Razz

Of course these reports came out over 2 years ago and where is it now? Probably stalled in Congress or killed by the oil companies.



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww, hell, VS, then people would just complain about the shortage of water this will create! The environmental wackos will always find something to bitch about. They won't be happy until we either return to a Medeval lifestyle of eradicate humans from the planet (except, of course, for the environmental wackos). Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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