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Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:21 am Post subject:
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From the Times Online:
"Everyone [in the UK] who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance. Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it marks the latest government move to create a surveillance society. A compulsory national register for the owners of all mobile phones in Britain would be part of a much bigger database to combat terrorism and crime. Whitehall officials have raised the idea of a register containing the names and addresses of everyone who buys a phone in recent talks with Vodafone and other telephone companies, insiders say."
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:55 am Post subject:
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WTH, First step closer to the mark of the beast. LOL. This is BS.
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject:
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Whatever happened to the Britain we used to know and respect?!  
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:
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Just can't wait to see what they try and do with the internet over there too. 
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject:
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Don't be surprised, the whole world is heading this way and has been for awhile.
There will be many great things that can be accomplished and that is what the goverments will hide behind.
Sadly in the end those that control the governments will try to control everything. 
Say good bye to freedom, it's slowly being taken away.
Eventually the governments will control everything, I just hope that most of this happens after the rapture.
I don't want to be here and remember how it use to be.
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject:
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All of the intrusions into our privacy and liberty are all done "to protect us" and help the government "find the bad guys". This is easy to sell to most folks unless they realize that the government also gets to decide who the "bad guys" are.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject:
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| {uZa}Lonesome Eagle wrote: | All of the intrusions into our privacy and liberty are all done "to protect us" and help the government "find the bad guys". This is easy to sell to most folks unless they realize that the government also gets to decide who the "bad guys" are.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. |
I came across something very similiar in my reading recently:
“In Germany, they [the Gestapo] came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
-Martin Niemoller
German Pastor before World War Two
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