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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: College Education vs Real Life Education Reply with quote

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words, redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil,
selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.
He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"

She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy
classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is
so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always
invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show
up for classes because she's too hung over."

Her father asked her, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and
ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend
Audrey, who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA
and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily
fired back, "That's a crazy idea. How would that be fair? I've
worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and
a lot of hard work. Audrey has done next to nothing toward her
degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the
Republican Party."
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was awesome! hahahahah
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story a lot of truth in it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loved it, but I see two problems with it. First; very few young people her age would even get the point, much less acknowledge its validity. Second; I really don't see how today's Republican party is any different than the dem's when it comes to taxes and wealth redistribution.

Now don't misunderstand, studdog, I GET the point and agree with it, I just don't think there are very many in either party anymore who believe it. As I see it that is primarily why so many have become disenchanted with politics and politicians and just choose to stay at home on election days.

Sorry for jumping up on my soapbox again, but you know how these things set me off. Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing PWND!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

{uZa}fcbcynic wrote:
Loved it, but I see two problems with it. First; very few young people her age would even get the point, much less acknowledge its validity. Second; I really don't see how today's Republican party is any different than the dem's when it comes to taxes and wealth redistribution.

Now don't misunderstand, studdog, I GET the point and agree with it, I just don't think there are very many in either party anymore who believe it. As I see it that is primarily why so many have become disenchanted with politics and politicians and just choose to stay at home on election days.

Sorry for jumping up on my soapbox again, but you know how these things set me off. Shocked Wink


As you should know by now, I very much agree with you Cynic. Wink

I'm not Republican or Democrat, even though I tend to vote mainly Republican I feel it is the lesser of two evils. Crying or Very sad
I am conservative and would rather see a less powerful Fed gov and a stronger State and local gov.
I am all for giving and helping, but don't like being made to support without any direct choice.
From every pay check my wife and I tithe 10% of our gross to church and give an additional 5% of our gross to wherever we feel like giving it.
Occassionaly we give more, so I don't believe we are greedy by any means.
And I have practiced this when money was extremely tight and when things are going well.
I truly believe I cannot out give God, and have always been blessed by this practice.
What goes around comes around. Wink
Yet I feel if a person earns money, then they should have the right to keep it or give it.
It should be the individual persons choice to give, save, share or be greedy.
I hate it when I am required to give to things I don't support. Evil or Very Mad

Besides that, I would rather see a balanced budget before forcing people to give to anything else.

I only posted this because I thought it was too funny not to share.
If anyone does disagree with it, please just laugh and know it was only meant to be funny. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story, great story. Thank you for sharing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points all, studdog. It is worth noting that philanthropy stops being philanthropy when it stops being voluntary. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biblical Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.

Feudalism:
Your lord lends you two cows.
He takes most of the milk and leaves you some.

Pure Socialism:
You have two cows.
The government takes them and puts them into a barn with everyone else’s cows.
You have to take care of all the cows.
The government gives you as much milk as you need.

Bureaucratic Socialism:
You have two cows.
The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else’s cows.
They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers.
You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers.
The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

Fascism:
You have two cows.
The government takes them both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.

Pure Communism:
You have two cows.
Your neighbors help you to take care of them, and you all share the milk.

Russian Communism:
You have two cows.
You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

Cambodian Communism:
You have two cows.
The government takes them both and shoots you.

Dictatorship:
You have two cows.
The government takes them both and drafts you.

Pure Democracy:
You have two cows.
Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

Representative Democracy:
You have two cows.
Your neighbors vote for someone to tell you who gets the milk.

American Democracy:
The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for it.
After the election, the President is impeached for speculating in cow futures.
The press dubs the affair “Cowgate.”

British Democracy:
You have two cows.
You feed them sheep brains and they go mad.
The government doesn’t do anything.

Bureaucracy:
You have two cows.
At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them.
Then it pays you not to milk them.
Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.
Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

Environmentalism:
You have two cows.
The government bans you from milking or killing them.

Pure Anarchy:
You have two cows.
Your neighbors riot and kill you for trying to sell the milk.

Libertarian/Anarchy-Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.

Clintonism:
You have two cows.
The government requires you to take saxophone lessons.

Totalitarianism:
You have two cows.
The government takes them and denies they ever existed.
Milk is banned.

Counter-Culture:
Wow, dude, there’s like... These two cows, man.
You got to have some of this milk.

Canadianism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
CG kills you with a knife.

Cynicism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
President Cynic is pleased.

Gomerism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Gomer will help for free whenever you need it, he's such a nice guy!

Dellisism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
The love machine rolls around in the hay.

Sgt. Matt Baker Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Matt drinks half a six pack of beer.

KillJoy Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
KillJoy drinks the other half.

DB7 Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Bloody Hell, did you see those two cows?

Sgt. HoleInYerHead Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Sgt. HoleInYerHead gives limo rides to city folk to see your cows.

Enelya Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
You flip the red switch and the cows disappear.

BulletSponge Capitalism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Bullets watches the two cows on a 52" big screen.

HiTechRedNeckism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Hey! Those deer have funny antlers!

Seleanaism:
You have two cows.
You take care of them and sell the extra milk if you want to.
Hey! Shut-Up!

OKAY, I'll stop. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol I knew exactly where that was going on the "deduct 1.0 GPA and give it to your friend" part Laughing

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I am conservative and would rather see a less powerful Fed gov and a stronger State and local gov.


It appears you believe in state sovereignty. Which is fine. It's just the last time many people believed in it the whole country was split into a civil war. Not saying that will happen, just saying that's what happened the last time a ton of people liked that idea.
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Studdog, those were funny! Nicely done! Laughing

Spam, as you may know by now I just can't let your statement go without comment.

State sovereignty is what this country is supposed to be about. I would recommend another reading of the Constitution as well as a perusal of contemporary commentary about the Constitutional Convention. Many of the colonies refused to sign on to the new Constitution unless state sovereignty was assured.

Our nation is supposed to be a VOLUNTARY union of states. If maintained at the point of a bayonet (thank you, Mr. Lincoln) it is no longer voluntary and the original intent of our Constitution is usurped. I will not go into a history lesson here, as it would take entirely too much space. I will, however, recommend that those who are truly interested, or who remain ignorant of our nation's history, contact me about some resources regarding our founding and our form of government.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!
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{uZa}fcbcynic wrote:

State sovereignty is what this country is supposed to be about. I would recommend another reading of the Constitution as well as a perusal of contemporary commentary about the Constitutional Convention. Many of the colonies refused to sign on to the new Constitution unless state sovereignty was assured.

Our nation is supposed to be a VOLUNTARY union of states. If maintained at the point of a bayonet (thank you, Mr. Lincoln) it is no longer voluntary and the original intent of our Constitution is usurped. I will not go into a history lesson here, as it would take entirely too much space. I will, however, recommend that those who are truly interested, or who remain ignorant of our nation's history, contact me about some resources regarding our founding and our form of government.


I'd love to hear more. You have any online lectures? Love to hear them.
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{uZa}fcbcynic wrote:
Studdog, those were funny! Nicely done! Laughing

Spam, as you may know by now I just can't let your statement go without comment.

State sovereignty is what this country is supposed to be about. I would recommend another reading of the Constitution as well as a perusal of contemporary commentary about the Constitutional Convention. Many of the colonies refused to sign on to the new Constitution unless state sovereignty was assured.

Our nation is supposed to be a VOLUNTARY union of states. If maintained at the point of a bayonet (thank you, Mr. Lincoln) it is no longer voluntary and the original intent of our Constitution is usurped. I will not go into a history lesson here, as it would take entirely too much space. I will, however, recommend that those who are truly interested, or who remain ignorant of our nation's history, contact me about some resources regarding our founding and our form of government.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!!


I'm learning all about the Constitution/Civil War in school right now Wink
I might have gotten the term mixed up with another term. Can't think of it though. It means something like "believing in a strong state government and a weak federal government". I think that's what it means. ANYWAYS, that is one of the main points of the seceding of the Southern states. Not THE main point, one of them.
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You are correct when you say, "State Sovereignty." You should know that the New England states wanted to secede from the Union because they disagreed with the U.S. war with Mexico. So you see, secession was acknowledged by many early Americans as being perfectly legal and acceptable. It just depends on whose ox is being gored, doesn't it?

I would ask that you read this excerpt from the Declaration of Independence and then tell me what you think it means:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — [i]That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the [i]Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new [/i]Government,[/i] laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. (Emphasis mine)
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