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Now, now 10k, these illegals have rights too, and the mexican government is kind enough to send their military in here to help us uphold those rights...
Ok, now that the liberal idiots are satisfied with my post, let's get real... Our government has known for decades that most drugs in this country come from, or at least via, Mexico... The so called "war on drugs" has always been a sham at best... Uncle Sam makes way too much money from the drug trade in this country to do anything serious about it... But now we have our own border patrol agents, civilian militias and generally PO'd citizens starting to actually defend our southern border... Since our government can't very well send our own military to do anything about our own fellow Americans, it just stands to reason that they will turn a blind eye towards the Mexican government when they decide to do something about us...
Face it folks, unless the Mexican military does something major and highly visible like fly some airplanes into some famous buildings, nothing will be done... The liberals in this country will not allow us to arm our borders, and right now they control most of our federal government, democrat AND republican, congressional, judicial AND executive... All 3 branches and both major parties...
Of course we read in the news how this police department or that task force made a major drug bust... Give me a break... That "whopping" 500 kilograms of whatever that you guys just took off the streets is already on it's way north in 2 of the 40 crates in the back end of one of the several semis that will be here next week... Those 50 illegal immigrants that you just deported will be back working at Taco Bell before you can finish ordering your burrito supreme...
And before anybody says anything against our local law enforcement people, remember this... Every cop in this country is issued 2 sets of handcuffs when they graduate from the police academy... 1 they carry in a holster or on their belt, to be used during an arrest... The other they are required to wear on their own wrists due to the constraints that are placed on them...
If they misspell a criminals name on any of the hundreds of papers they have to fill out during an arrest, that person could very well go free because of it... And lets face it, you take a drug lord who has watched 5 of his fellow dealers killed during interrogations by his own government wanting to know where his stash is, what chance do you think 2 guys in a room playing good cop/bad cop have in this country??? None... For the most part, our police do what they can (pronounced "are allowed to do") but even that isn't much...
We have a case right now in the court system here where a minor (17) was drunk and high on pot, driving, wrecked and killed 2 teenage girls in his car, 1 elderly lady in the other car, and one of the girls was also pregnant... The state wants to charge him as an adult with 3 counts of murder, 1 count of feticide and several other charges related to death and driving while under the influence... But the liberal public here is crying that he is "just a child who made an error in judgement", and should only be charged as a juvenile with operating a motor vehicle under the influence... By the time this actually gets to trial, he will be 18, so the maximum he could get would be time served (less than a year) and a clean criminal record... Not bad for murdering 4 people... I say charge him as an adult, give him 1 of 2 sentences... Either life in prison without the chance of parole, or lethal injection... And this is just 1 case in hundreds every year in this country... And I'm fairly confident that our liberal government, media and moral majority (actually just a loud mouthed minority) will get their way to some extent, as they always seem to...
As for the rest of us, there really isn't anything we can do about this, the drug problem in this country, the illegals, or even the Mexican military... The liberals don't want anything done about these issues, the government won't do anything without the permission of the liberals, and the rest of us are pretty much powerless... Granted, we can vote for the candidates that we want to, but they are being hand picked for us by the "unseen forces" in the media... We will be given 2 choices for every office that is open this year, from the President on down to local officials... But local officials are pretty much powerless too, since most of their decisions are based on federal "permissions", so lets concentrate on the federal level of things... We will be allowed to choose between a liberal democrat and a liberal republican for most every open seat... Kinda like opening your lunch box to find a rotten apple and a rotten orange... Either way you're going to be hungry for a while...
Sorry for the long, partly (mostly???) off-topic rant...But I've been yelling about the various issues associated with Mexico and illegals for many years, it's late for me (second shift blows) and I just started typing a quick response to a very sore subject with me...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:28 am Post subject:
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I say shoot em down!
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject:
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Redneck its not the liberals doing this its the conservatives. The republicans want cheap labor so their rich friends can have their yards kept cheaply and house kept for pennies on the dollar. The liberals turn a blind eye because the illegals are becoming the election base for their party.
Please stop blaming just one group its the govt as a whole that is doing this not just the side that you dont like.
If you want to make a change then vote. Get off your butts and start a grass roots movement to vote for who ever is not currently in office. You can bitch and yell and scream and threaten all you want but the biggest impact a citizen of this nation can do is vote in every election.
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:
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Thomas Jefferson, you remember him, once stated that, "The tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants." If the government that we elected REFUSES to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, then perhaps it is time to "cast off that government" and return to one that better suits the people. Just read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Perhaps the time has come to show the American people, and our traitorous government, what the 2nd amendment is REALLY about. I'm ready, how about you?!
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject:
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You are right Recon, we all must vote... There's just 1 minor problem... At least in the presidential election, we really only have 1 person to vote for...
Clinton - Supports free trade agreements, both NAFTA and CAFTA
McCain - Supports free trade agreements, both NAFTA and CAFTA
Obama - Supports free trade agreements, both NAFTA and CAFTA
Clinton - Supports China's MFN status
McCain - Supports China's MFN status
Obama - Supports China's MFN status
These two issues cost more industrial jobs in this country than anything else...
Clinton - Wants to expand our countries welfare system
McCain - Wants to expand our countries welfare system
Obama - Wants to expand our countries welfare system
More of my tax dollars providing someone else the ability to not have to work for a living...
Clinton - Wants amnesty for illegals and easier immigration laws
McCain - Wants amnesty for illegals and easier immigration laws
Obama - Wants amnesty for illegals and easier immigration laws
More people coming into this country allowing employers to cut wages...
Does anyone besides me see a pattern here??? Yes, I will vote this election, just as I have in the past... But is there really any point to doing so??? The only thing we as Americans are going to decide this year is wether we want a Man (Black or White) or a woman as President... Beyond that, there really is no difference according to their congressional voting records...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject:
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| {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: | Thomas Jefferson, you remember him, once stated that, "The tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants." If the government that we elected REFUSES to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, then perhaps it is time to "cast off that government" and return to one that better suits the people. Just read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
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I've been ready for years Cynic, there's just 1 hitch... You, me and 20,000 of our closest friends will get our collective a$$e$ kicked by the FBI, Marines, Army, Navy, Airforce and Coast Guard... The press will call US the traitors, and "Domestic Terrorists"... And in the end, the only thing we will have accomplished will be the repeal of the second amendment...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject:
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I think there's more than just 20,000 of us. 
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:
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My vote was being held for Ron Paul, but thats kind of a no go isn't it  , and by no means am I a Liberal. True, there is no 1 group to blame. True, the government is making some good bank off the illegal sale of drugs. The war on drugs has failed since its beginning. I am a firm supporter of legalizing pot. Across the board. Not just for the medical. Do I think more people will pick it up? No. Do i think crime will increase because of it? No. Do I think there will be more traffic accidents and deaths because of it? No. Do i think it will contribute to birth defects and syndromes? No. Do i think it will make some people more violent? No. Funny how making alcohol legal has contributed to all those things though. Do i think far less drugs will be imported from Mexico like in the video? Yes. Do I think the government will be able to profit from the drug if it is legalized? No, not anymore. I don't think there would be too many macho muscle heads getting in brawls at a hash bar. Spend all the money from the war on drugs, and all the money saved from stopping welfare checks given to people who use drugs (through use of random drug testing), and all the prisoners being held for petty pot crimes... and spend it on more border security and education. After all, it is education that keeps most people from getting in to drugs.
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:54 am Post subject:
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| HiTechRedneck wrote: | | {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: | Thomas Jefferson, you remember him, once stated that, "The tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants." If the government that we elected REFUSES to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, then perhaps it is time to "cast off that government" and return to one that better suits the people. Just read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Perhaps the time has come to show the American people, and our traitorous government, what the 2nd amendment is REALLY about. I'm ready, how about you?! |
I've been ready for years Cynic, there's just 1 hitch... You, me and 20,000 of our closest friends will get our collective a$$e$ kicked by the FBI, Marines, Army, Navy, Airforce and Coast Guard... The press will call US the traitors, and "Domestic Terrorists"... And in the end, the only thing we will have accomplished will be the repeal of the second amendment... |
and therein lies the problem. our politicians, who have sworn oaths to the Constitution, are neither defending it, nor enforcing it. The lawmakers have become lawless. At this point, I would prefer a military coup. They (our servicemen and women) know we support them, and they support us (while at the same time loathing the politicos who misuse and abuse them).
And I think we can all agree, this is not an issue of race. As Americans we are bound by a common creed to defend America and our fellow Americans. If we allow our politicians to continue sacrificing our citizens, soldiers, and law enforcement agencies, than we are worthy of neither the freedom our forefathers fought for, nor the security for which our brothers-in-arms fight for now.
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:45 am Post subject:
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All I can say is....if you point a gun at me, I will open fire. I don't care if you are the Mexican Army. A .308 at 250yrds with heavy brush concealment, I SAY SNIPE THE FU#KERS!!!!!!
This Land is my Land, this land Ain't your Land, if you don't get off, I'll blow you head off.
P.S., I love my country, but hate my government, and I even work for the government. Go figure......
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:39 am Post subject:
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| uZa Ten*K wrote: | | HiTechRedneck wrote: | | {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: | Thomas Jefferson, you remember him, once stated that, "The tree of liberty must occasionally be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants." If the government that we elected REFUSES to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, then perhaps it is time to "cast off that government" and return to one that better suits the people. Just read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Perhaps the time has come to show the American people, and our traitorous government, what the 2nd amendment is REALLY about. I'm ready, how about you?! |
I've been ready for years Cynic, there's just 1 hitch... You, me and 20,000 of our closest friends will get our collective a$$e$ kicked by the FBI, Marines, Army, Navy, Airforce and Coast Guard... The press will call US the traitors, and "Domestic Terrorists"... And in the end, the only thing we will have accomplished will be the repeal of the second amendment... |
and therein lies the problem. our politicians, who have sworn oaths to the Constitution, are neither defending it, nor enforcing it. The lawmakers have become lawless. At this point, I would prefer a military coup. They (our servicemen and women) know we support them, and they support us (while at the same time loathing the politicos who misuse and abuse them).
And I think we can all agree, this is not an issue of race. As Americans we are bound by a common creed to defend America and our fellow Americans. If we allow our politicians to continue sacrificing our citizens, soldiers, and law enforcement agencies, than we are worthy of neither the freedom our forefathers fought for, nor the security for which our brothers-in-arms fight for now. |
Very well put TenK!
We have very little choice with our votes.
I always feel like I am voting for the lesser of two evils! 
I think we need to get very agressive with pressuring those that are already in office and not put hope into the end of their term.
We also need to let these crappy media's know what we really think, so they can quit trying to shape our votes.
Let's get back to our constitution and if needed let's over throw the government.
If we just had a louder voice, the politicians might just listen.
We really need to eliminate the loop hole in "truth in advertising" that the politicians have. Politicians are the only group that can (AND DO) lie in advertising, and it's not against the law. There are some things that a person can state that should never change. If you are unsure or can't make a desicion at this point, then say so. That's called honesty and not just flapping your lips to the tune of the crowd. Don't give a different story based on where you are and who's listening. That is just bull crap and needs to stop! This is one of the topics that really gets me pissed off.
I think we should also not allow politicians to take or stay in office if they have/do file bankruptcy. I realize that sometimes things happen outside our control and hate to lump all together, but a blanket rule would have the best benefit overall. If you can't rule your own finances, then you don't need to rule mine! This is another subject I get fired up about!
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:
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I submit that we do not need to "overthrow" the U.S. government, that has already happened. We need to take it back, away from those who have stolen it from us. 
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject:
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| {uZa}fcbcynic wrote: | | I submit that we do not need to "overthrow" the U.S. government, that has already happened. We need to take it back, away from those who have stolen it from us. |
Good point! 
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Good point Cynic... The problem is that we would have to do so in such a way as to have the support of the people while not ending up in jail or dead... Ideas???
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