witch one do you think i should get

$1410.00
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CASE: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) NEW! Apevia X-Jupiter Jr. 800 Watts Case (G Type Blue Color with Side-Window)
CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 6400+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M2N SLI NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (4x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM (BLACK COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

2nd choice
$1145.00
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CASE: Apevia X-Supra Gaming Mid-Tower 800W Case (G Type Blue Color with Side-Window)
CPU: ($50 off Mail-in Rebate) AMD Phenom™ X4 9500 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M2N SLI NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (4x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLUE COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM (BLUE COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

1] Aurora™

Processor: AMD® Athlon™ X2 6400+ 3.2GHz Dual Core 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Conspiracy Blue
System Lighting: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue
System Cooling: Alienware® Standard System Cooling
Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: Single Graphics Card - 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600 GT – Superclocked!
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved Asus AMD® 790FX Motherboard
Includes PCI-Express 2.0, ASUS BIOS Overclocking Utility, and Support for AMD Phenom Quad-Core Processors
Operating System (Office software not included): Windows Vista® Home Premium with Service Pack 1 – DirectX 10 Ready!
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Single High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Port
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Keyboard: Premium Keyboard - Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Premium Mouse - Standard Optical 3-Button Mouse with Scroll Wheel
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Desktop Binder
Alienware Extras: Owner Identification Card
Alienware Extras: Internal Wire Management
Avatar:
Alienhead Glow
Window Style: Default Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Power Plan: Standard Power Plan
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates Off
Time Zones: (GMT - 6.00) Central Time (US & Canada)

SubTotal: $1,259.00
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[1] Area-51® 7500

Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8200 2.66GHz 6MB Cache 1333MHz FSB
Alienware P2 Chassis: Alienware® P2 Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling - Conspiracy Blue
System Lighting: Alienware® Standard System Lighting - Astral Blue
System Cooling: Alienware® Standard System Cooling
Power Supply: Alienware® 750 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
Graphics Processor: 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GT
Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA® nForce 680i SLI Motherboard
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows® XP Professional – DirectX 9 Only!
Desktop Tuners and Remotes: Media Center upgrade options are not available with Windows XP Professional.
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200RPM 16MB Cache
Optical Drives : Single Drive Configuration - 20X Dual-Layer Burner (DVD±RW)
Enthusiast Essentials: Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Ports
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
Keyboard: Premium Keyboard - Standard Keyboard
Mouse: Premium Mouse - Standard Optical 3-Button Mouse with Scroll Wheel
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Desktop Binder
Alienware Extras: Owner Identification Card
Alienware Extras: Internal Wire Management
Avatar:
Alienhead 3D
Window Style: Silver Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Wallpaper:
Alienhead 3D
Power Plan: Standard Power Plan
Automatic Updates: This personalization option is currently available for Windows Vista® operating systems only.
Sidebar Gadgets: This personalization option is currently available for Windows Vista® operating systems only.
RSS Feeds: This personalization option is currently available for Windows Vista® operating systems only.
Time Zones: (GMT - 5.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

SubTotal: $1,359.00
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Discount: $0.00
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject:

They all look good, but one thing I would suggest is two hard drives, not one big one. Get two 250gig drives instead of the one 500gig. That way you have the ability to have a backup strategy that protects you from hard drive failure or virus, or act of god, or whatever. I use Acronis to back up, but I do recommend you use something and back up to a second "physical" hard drive.

Second point.. I would suggest going Intel instead of AMD right now. The current generation of Intel Dual Core CPU's are getting much better ratings and review than the AMD (like the 6400+ in the first config). Not a big deal, I have the AMD 6400+ and it's fast as a scalded cat, but if I had it to do over I might go Intel just now. AMD is struggling a bit to find their way.

Also, others may disagree, but I'm not sure SLI (two graphics cards) buys you much. Not too many games really support it in any significant way, and as far as "bang for the buck" you might be just as well off (and a bit richer) with one 8800 Ultra. If you really want SLI, you might look at the 9800 GX2 instead of two 8800's.

As far as AlienWare - I would stay away from them. Why pay a 15% or more premium just for the name to get the same stuff you can put together from NewEgg or MicroCenter but without the name?

Eagle

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

I agree on the SLI point... I have never seen a reason to go with 2 video cards. To me, its like owning 2 homes, but only needing to live in one. Its all for show.

For a quad core processor, AMD is the biggest bang per buck. But Intel makes a better all around ship.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

Eagle
Thanks for the info ( now the problem is that I have only owened 1 Intel
in the past ) Could you please give me some ideas on cpu and mother board ( I have been AMD for 10 years) and I don't even read that much on them
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject:

i recommend u go cheap on hard drive and ram ...all will pretty much perform for what u need unless ur just a super picky computer nerd...

i have the amd 6400+ works great can't say id go intel as i have no problems with it

and for sli...no need what so ever if you can run cod4 with settings maxed out and get 125 fps constant that is all u need(always max out to watch u can get all the time to prevent more lag)I have an 8800 gts 320 mb gets all i want done 125 constant in all games plus right now saying it can perform to what it needs just buy one and wait for prices to drop on the video card then pick one up for cheaper

just my 2 cents.
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject:

Most of those items I would recommend, except for the GPU and PSU.

First, 1GB of ram on an 8800GT is overkill. Most of the reviews I've read say that the GPU isn't powerful enough to give real world performance gains on 1GB. On the 9800's or the new 200 series there is some benefit. If you're going with the 8800GT, the 512 is sufficient.

As for the PSU, that Rosewell does seem to have some good review ratings, and I would agree for the most part. Seeing as I have a 450W model for the past year and haven't had any issues. Very Happy

If I had to do over again, I'd probably go for a Thermaltake or Corsair. [H] has some good reviews for both of these brand. The PSU's on the link below should suffice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=58&Description=&Type=&N=2000320058&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=100&MaxPrice=200&Manufactory=1379&Manufactory=1459&PropertyCodeValue=1314%3A28169&PropertyCodeValue=1314%3A28170

That's 1 cent Very Happy

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject:

Give 20 of us $50.00 each and we'll let you own us one night a week. Confused